Spencer Stevenson, author of World's Best HT Doctors, speaks with Dr. Robert J. Dorin about what exactly makes him "one of the best surgeons in the world." Spencer notes, for example, that it's not just the results, but the care and education that Dr. Dorin consistently provides to each and every patient. Dr. Dorin was recently included in the 2023 list of best hair transplant surgeons and is honored by this distinction.
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Dr. Dorin, absolutely brilliant
to catch up with you.
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We've been trying to catch up for a while.
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I wanted to commend you
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because you are, yet again,
one of the best surgeons in the world
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on the Ape to Gentleman article.
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I've included you now
for a number of years
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based on the fact that you are,
without question,
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one of the best surgeons in the world.
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But not just the hair transplant
that you provide your patients,
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but the care and the education
that you have consistently provided
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for as long as I've known you.
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I knew of you in the hair loss industry,
in the hair transplant industry
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for many, many years
before we'd even spoken,
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and I'd always been pleasantly
interacting with your patients.
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It was a very pleasant experience.
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Whenever I've spoken to any of them,
they hold you in the highest regard
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for not just the results,
but how you've taken care of them.
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That's why you are one
of the best surgeons in the world
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on the Ape to Gentleman article yet again.
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-I just wanted to say, well done.
-Thank you.
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I appreciate this honor to be included
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in the upper echelon
of our hair-restoration surgeons.
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It's truly an honor to be included
in that and recognized that way.
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I have to say the inclusion of that
has made the patients coming to me
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through your patient advocacy work
to be very well-educated, well-informed,
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to be understanding about
it is a process and not a treatment.
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It's not like they're driving through
McDonald's and buying a Happy Meal,
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and then it's all said and done.
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There was a lot of planning,
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a lot of listening
to the patients as an individual
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to see what goes into their psyche,
how they think about it,
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and what they're really looking for.
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You really need to address that
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and not just be technically good
at what you do.
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That's why you are so well-regarded
with the practice and with your…
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The feedback that patients provide
me is your level of expertise
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and your depth in preparation.
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Really, head transplant surgery
is a bespoke surgery.
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It's not a cookie-cutter
type of procedure,
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and you truly get that.
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You take so much time and care
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with every single patient
that comes through your door.
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That for me as a patient advocate
and protecting patients,
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and my role in this space
is to educate patients.
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Well, this is why I want to put
them in touch with surgeons like yourself
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because I know
that they are going to be cared for
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as I would wish to be cared for.
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Surgeons such as yourself
and all your esteemed colleagues
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that are on the list…
We know the list is not exhaustive.
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There are many
other fantastic surgeons out there.
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But for me to be able
to guide patients to the-
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-That's true.
-safer direction is fantastic.
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To have the platform
of Ape to Gentlemen,
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which is the website,
and the article in particular,
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is viewed by millions of people a year.
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To put them in touch with surgeons
like yourself is fantastic.
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When I hear back
from surgeons that they say
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the patients are very educated that come
as a result of reading the article,
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well, my job is done because
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I can guide people in a safe direction,
but I can't have the surgery for them.
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They have to do their own due diligence.
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They have to take
their own responsibility.
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But if they're coming
to surgeons such as yourself
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and they already understand
the process and what's involved
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and their expectations are realistic,
then the article has done its job.
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It's great to get
that feedback from yourself.
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No, it is true.
I find that to be…
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It's a pleasure
when people walk in
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and they tell me
that they came through this channel.
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It really is.
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Well, I've noticed over the years
that the article has been out there,
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and it'll be out there for perpetuity,
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but we do it every year
and we update the article
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and we update the message slightly
and we keep resources relevant
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because obviously,
the industry is forever changing.
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Surgeons, there's always
new surgeons that a spotlight needs
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to be put on them because
of what they're doing for the industry
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and how they're helping
benefit the industry.
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For people, I think patients that read
the article or stumble across the article
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don't realize how fortunate they are
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of how much heavy lifting
that article has done for them.
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100% true.
You have vetted so much
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when someone comes across
and reads that article and takes it in.
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It's much easier for them to find
the surgeon that's going to provide
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something that they're really looking for.
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Indeed. The main body of the article
is very much surgery is a last resort.
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It makes people take stock
and make them accountable.
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They can't just go to anywhere and get,
like you would, a heart transplant.
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If you're going for a hair transplant,
you need to give it the same respect
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and do the same amount of research
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that you would
before going under the knife.
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This article really pulls
the bandaid off and makes people realize,
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"Hang on a minute,
is hair transplant surgery for me?
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If it is for me, then fantastic."
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This authoritative piece
has got a list of surgeons,
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and like we say,
it's not exhaustive,
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but I know full well that those surgeons
are going to educate that patient.
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If they're not eligible for surgery,
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they will be told
that they're not eligible for surgery.
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Yes. That is 100% true.
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That's really key.
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Doc, I really appreciate
everything you do for your patients,
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everything you've done for the industry.
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You're based in New York.
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It's fantastic.
It's such a busy, vibrant place.
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There's a lot of choice
in New York for everything.
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But one thing for sure is you are,
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without question,
the go-to guy in New York.
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It's brilliant that the city,
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despite the fact you have so many
patients that come all over the world…
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I know I've spoken to them.
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I know there's a lot of UK patients
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that have come over
to New York to see you.
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That's true.
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But it's brilliant that we can put you
on that stage to be seen
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and give people an opportunity
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to get really good advice
of a great surgeon.
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Yes, it's true.
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As you know, we recently moved
our office from Midtown Manhattan
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out to the suburb of Long Island,
still in New York.
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It's a 30, 35-minute drive,
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but the people have been telling me,
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"Doc,
no matter where you would have moved,
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I'd still follow you and come out
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and have at least a console
to listen to your philosophy."
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Fantastic, man.
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Well, listen, Doc,
I wanted to say, commend you,
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well done yet again.
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You've been on the article
since it started.
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You've you will continue
to reside on that article
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because it is so important
that patients get
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honest, ethical advice
from a fantastic hair-restoration surgeon;
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and you are that guy.
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I want to just…
Please keep up the great work.
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Spex, I wanted to thank you again.
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I truly still love what I do.
Doing this 21 years.
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I don't feel
like I'm working when I'm there.
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It's an honor
to be able to do that for patients,
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and it's truly an honor to be recognized
as such an advocate as yourself.